Tape 8, Side 1, through Tape 9, Side 1. In the fifth interview session, conducted on December 3, 1998, Hatfield continues to speak at length about his political philosophy. He talks about the organization of Oregon state government, giving examples from his time as governor; and discusses balancing environmental conservation and economic concerns. He also talks about his master’s thesis on Herbert Hoover and about teaching at Willamette University.