Tape 10, Side 1, through Tape 11, Side 1. In the eighth interview session, conducted on September 16, 2013, Stuckenschneider discusses an unsuccessful effort to organize a union for federal mediators in 1983, and how the mediators successfully organized in 1996. He speaks about serving as president of the mediators union from 1996 to 2004. He speaks extensively about the role of federal mediators in contract negotiations.