In the third interview session, conducted on April 23, 1993, DeBernardis continues discussing his service as Portland Community College’s first president. He continues talking about the development of PCC’s campuses and the value of the classes that PCC offers. He speaks about the business model of higher education, the formation of the community college district, and the teachers union. He talks about members of the PCC board during his presidency, teachers they hired, and his management style. He discusses PCC’s curriculum and how it compared to a traditional four-year college and talks about the accreditation process.