Tape 41, Side 1 to partway through Tape 42, Side 1. In the twenty-eighth interview session, conducted on February 20, 1998, Clark continues discussing serving as executive director of the Housing Authority of Portland. He talks about people he hired, the differences between the Housing Authority and Central City Concern, and Mayor Bud Clark’s 12-point plan for Portland’s unhoused population. He describes the funding structure of the Housing Authority and the services it provided. He talks about gang and drug activity at Columbia Villa and describes how the Housing Authority responded, including people he hired.