In the second interview session, conducted on March 24, 2018, Moro discusses retiring in 2011, and depending on her Social Security and her PERS pension. She speaks extensively about participating in a lawsuit, Moro v. State of Oregon, in 2013, when the Oregon State Legislature passed amendments to Public Employees Retirement System (PERS) program that would have resulted in cuts to the benefits of retired public employees. She describes changes the legislature has made to PERS since she began working for the Estacada School District, and how those changes affected low-income public service employees. She shares her thoughts about anti-labor sentiments expressed by conservatives in the legislature, and by her friends and family. She discusses proposals for changes to PERS that were being discussed at the time of the interview. She then talks about her labor rights advocacy with OSEA and on the Northwest Oregon Labor Council.