Tape 10, Side 1, through Tape 11, Side 2. In the fifth interview session, conducted on February 16, 2018, Leonard continues to discuss his experience as a member of the Democratic minority in the Oregon Legislature during the 1990s. He talks about opposing anti-labor legislation, about his unsuccessful campaign for Senate minority leader in 1995, and about his relationship with Republican legislators such as Randy Miller and Gordon Smith. He also speaks about the career of his second wife, Kathryn Whelan. He talks about serving on the Senate labor and business committee, about legislation he worked on, and about legislators he served with. He then discusses his campaign for the Oregon House of Representatives in 1998.