Tape 5, Side 1, through Tape 7, Side 1. In the third interview session, conducted on January 26, 2018, Leonard discusses his experiences during training to become a firefighter. He discusses his 24-year career with the Portland Fire Bureau. He talks about fires he responded to, about rescuing people from burning buildings, and about arriving on scenes where people died. He discusses the normalization of receiving counseling after difficult fire rescues. He speaks extensively about serving as president of the Portland Fire Fighters Association, describes the changes he made to the association, and talks about his accomplishments as union president. He discusses the relationship between the Portland Fire Fighters Association and other first responder unions in Portland. He also talks about the Portland Fire Fighter Association’s increased involvement in Portland politics during his time as president, and shares his reasons for not seeking re-election in 1998. He describes the harassment women firefighters experienced during the 1990s.