In the third interview session, conducted on August 9, 1994, Ryles shares his thoughts about economic and social factors behind the increase in houselessness, particularly in Oregon, in the late 20th century. He talks about his work as a member of the Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce to provide social services to people experiencing homelessness in Portland, discusses Portland Mayor Bud Clark’s 12-point plan to address homelessness, and talks about the development of the Homeless Action Fund. He also talks about controversies surrounding the Baloney Joe’s shelter and its director, Michael Stoops. He speaks at length about his work to get Portland businesses to sign on to Clark’s plan.