In the fourth interview session, conducted on January 22, 1999, Sheets discusses serving as director of the Washington State Energy Office during Governor John Spellman’s administration in 1981, particularly focusing on working with the Washington State Legislature to create the NWPPC. He talks about serving as the first executive director of the NWPPC, about the first members of the NWPPC, and about the first NWPPC meetings.